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:::::::Seems good to me. Should we copy this discussion or just link it? [[User:Gormaz|Gormaz]] ([[User talk:Gormaz|talk]]) 19:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 
:::::::Seems good to me. Should we copy this discussion or just link it? [[User:Gormaz|Gormaz]] ([[User talk:Gormaz|talk]]) 19:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
 
It seems like there has not been any further discussion. Thus, the old definition of active = "activity in the last six months or someone intends to geohash there" remains the new one. I will soon change the categories of the graticules accordingly. --[[User:Fippe|Fippe]] ([[User talk:Fippe|talk]]) 14:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
 
It seems like there has not been any further discussion. Thus, the old definition of active = "activity in the last six months or someone intends to geohash there" remains the new one. I will soon change the categories of the graticules accordingly. --[[User:Fippe|Fippe]] ([[User talk:Fippe|talk]]) 14:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)
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Thanks for the hashcard you send me from [[2018-09-07 52 9]]. I was surprised at first, but that's what you get when you reach couch potato achivement, everybody knows were you live. It´s good to know that there are nice stalkers on the internet :-)
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Revision as of 18:33, 15 September 2018

Congratulation for your first geohash!
Greetings --Q-Owl (talk) 14:40, 17 February 2015 (EST)

Thank you! Hopefully, there will be many more. --Fippe 15:14, 17 February 2015 (EST)

Upcoming Global Hash

2017-10-16 global: is this good for you? --GeorgDerReisende (talk) 21:21, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Sorry Georg, I think I was inactive when you wrote this. --Fippe (talk) 09:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Regional maps

I've seen you've recently created the map of visited graticules for Slovakia. I wanted to do the same with Spain, but prefered to know before doing it by hand if there's any tool already made to do it automatically. Thanks in advance. Gormaz (talk) 21:25, 8 August 2018 (UTC)

I created Spain. As far as I am aware there is no tool, but I have a (pretty bad and not universal) script that did most of the copy-pasting. Hopefully I did not make too many mistakes, but if you find any, feel free to correct them. --Fippe (talk) 09:47, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you very much! At first sight it seems to be fine, I'll check it more thoroughly when I find some more time, though. BTW, thanks for all the edits you're doing, you're working hard for the wiki :) Gormaz (talk) 22:37, 9 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you! :-) --Fippe (talk) 09:23, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi, I run a notification script on both Twitter and IRC. I have currently put your username on the ignore list since the number of page creations is a bit high. If anyone else is planning on creating a lot of pages, please let me know or use a bot account (my script does ignore creations that are marked as bot creations).--Eupeodes (talk) 09:20, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Okay, thanks for letting me know. --Fippe (talk) 09:23, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Ow, and keep up the good work! Creating the pages is a good thing. I will do some work on the pages for the Netherlands soon (I think I am still listed in the graticule where I lived before 2014).--Eupeodes (talk) 09:26, 10 August 2018 (UTC)
Cool, thank you! :-) --Fippe (talk) 09:45, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Hi from Sourcerer

Hello - I've noticed you making quite a lot of wiki corrections, all of which make sense too! Keep up the good work. It's appreciated. --Sourcerer (talk) 16:05, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Thank you! :-) --Fippe (talk) 16:55, 10 August 2018 (UTC)

Moving graticule articles

Hey, I want to change the naming of the graticules on the Canary Islands so they're called after the island they are in. Is it enough to use the move button on top of the page or would I be breaking anything? Gormaz (talk) 14:45, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

There are a few additional things that you should do. (1) You should change the names here too. (2) You should redirect the graticule "shortcut" to the new name. For example, 29,-13 redirects to Teguise, Spain currently, but should redirect to the new name afterwards. (3) You should also change the name on the graticule page itself, and on the graticule pages that surround the graticule. You can find a list of pages that link to Teguise here. --Fippe (talk) 19:24, 13 August 2018 (UTC)
Ok! Thank you very much! I'll see if I can do it tomorrow. Gormaz (talk) 19:39, 13 August 2018 (UTC)

You surprised me

So I saw that you want to have a Palestine page. While I will leave all of my opinions about the Palestinian Authority out of this discussion, I do not believe that any of my hashpoints were in Palestine. There were no Palestinian police officers or soldiers there though I did see Israeli soldiers. There was no Palestinian currency used there even though on many of the trips I bought things in New Israeli Shekels. The only identification I needed to travel to these locations was my Israeli one which allowed me to enter the State of Israel. I can allow you to call the areas under A and B Palestine because there the Palestinian Authority has control (this is the best map for that: https://www.btselem.org/map). In light of these facts, nobody has successfully been at a geohash in any point that could be called Palestine according to the modern definition. Now if you want to start fighting wars before 1948 then this site is going to have to figure out what to do with Dutch East India. Yosef (talk)

Thank you for your words. --Fippe (talk) 19:14, 14 August 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for activity

Hey Fippe Thanks for your activity with geohashing. I recogniced your changes - you changed my home graticule from active to inactive. I don't agree with that change. Because I don't want to agree. But unfortunately it's correct, my last log was about three years ago. Hope I can change the activity state of that graticule soon...:-) GreezBrocorb (talk) 08:14, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Aw man, I'm sorry. Go geohashing soon, if you can, and change it back to active! :-) --Fippe (talk) 09:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Active/Inactive graticules

Hi,what is your definition of active and inactive graticules? I saw you changed several Dutch graticules to inactive, including the one I live in and the one I hashed in 6 days ago. And there are more Dutch graticules that do have recent expeditons by locals, and are now set to inactive by you.--Eupeodes (talk) 08:14, 16 August 2018 (UTC)

Yes, that was a mistake, I apologize. My definition of "inactive" was "no expeditions since 2017-01-01". Often I did not check the Meetup category but just looked at the graticule page. But even there mistakes are not impossible. My thought process was that if I was going to do mistakes it would be okay, since if the graticule is active, a local geohasher would correct me. Thank you for doing so! I double-checked the Dutch graticules (this time using the meetup categories) and hopefully corrected all mistakes. --Fippe (talk) 09:16, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
I have been recording expedition reports in a database since 2014 (for use in my irc bot on #geohashing and my twitter bot on @geohashing) and I have just made and export for you available here. --Eupeodes (talk) 09:34, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Thank you, I corrected my mistakes and marked other previously inactive graticules active. --Fippe (talk) 10:33, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
First of all, thanks again for your hard work. However, I think we could benefit from a unique criteria regarding the definition of inactive. You seem to be using 'no expeditions on the current and last year' as definition, which I don't have any reason to oppose, but Category:Active graticules states clearly that a graticule is inactive after six months without any expedition. It seems a small period of time, which probably made for sense when Geohashing was more popular, but I'll suggest discussing a new definition to avoid working for nothing. Gormaz (talk) 11:58, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
Ah, you are right. I did not see the definition, I thought there was none. The six-month rule would make 123 graticules inactive, one of them being Texel which Eupeodes seems to object. But I can leave that one out since Eupeodes is "indicating a continued intention to geohash there" (quote from Category:Active graticules).
However, before I'll make 122 edits I would prefer that there is a discussion and a consensus. As for my own opinion, I would say it should not be more than "no expeditions on the current and last year". It should also not be less than "no expeditions in the last six months". I would agree to both of those or anything in between. There does not even have to be any change at all, like I said: I only made up a definition because I did not know we had one. --Fippe (talk) 12:30, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
On Category:Inactive graticules the definition also contains 'and no significant wiki edits, such as planning, commenting or adding names of local users' That could also mean that any graticule where someone active in the community lives is an active graticule (independent of the hashing success in the graticule). And otherwise I should just make more reports of hashes that are impossible to reach without a boat (and buy a sea-worthy boat to go to the hashes.--Eupeodes (talk) 12:38, 16 August 2018 (UTC)
So, summarizing, we have to make two decisions: 1) after what period of inactivity something becomes officially inactive and 2) whether or not consider only graticule activity or other things like it being home to an active geohasher; right?
I think there should be a bot that adds/replaces the inactive graticule category if the graticule page has not been modified by a non-bot user for X days. It will save Fippe a lot of work. On the other way, any user may change the category back to active when editing the page for any reason. -- Malgond (talk) 20:14, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Now that the issue is well defined (I think), may be we should move the discussion some place more people is likely to see it or, at least, lead them here. Gormaz (talk) 06:57, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
I found an old discussion at Category_talk:Active_graticules#Active.2FInactive_Definition. Continue there?--Eupeodes (talk) 07:01, 17 August 2018 (UTC)
Seems good to me. Should we copy this discussion or just link it? Gormaz (talk) 19:45, 17 August 2018 (UTC)

It seems like there has not been any further discussion. Thus, the old definition of active = "activity in the last six months or someone intends to geohash there" remains the new one. I will soon change the categories of the graticules accordingly. --Fippe (talk) 14:10, 6 September 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the hashcard

Vielen Dank für die nette Karte.

Thanks for the hashcard you send me from 2018-09-07 52 9. I was surprised at first, but that's what you get when you reach couch potato achivement, everybody knows were you live. It´s good to know that there are nice stalkers on the internet :-)