Talk:2015-06-18 42 -85

When the hashpoint is that far (about 10 meters) behind an obstacle, and clearly behind the obstacle (as can be seen on the satellite image), and with the GPS still showing a significant distance from the spot, using a large GPS error zone is a bit of a stretch. But it is done now and again. It is not breaking any firm rules, it's more of a personal thing to count this or not. If you are okay with the guilt you wrote about then you are allowed to count the expedition as a success. If you can't sleep at night then you might have to reconsider ;-) - Danatar (talk) 08:35, 21 June 2015 (EDT)

Danatar, Of course it's a stretch. That was what I meant when I suggested a "Reverse Radio Yerevan": "Did you reach the coordinates? No, but there was a technicality..." Maybe we should call it "Radio Neverey".

The points of this odd game, as I see them, are to (1) interact with people (in person or online) and have fun, (2) get out and see places we wouldn't have otherwise seen, and (3) appreciate the remarkable technological tool that is GPS. When I realized that I couldn't actually get to the hashpoint because of the fences, but according to the rules of the game (appropriate for most situations) I could actually claim that I had, I thought it would be more fun for readers if I reported it the way I did.

But, I want to defend myself against "clearly behind the obstacle (as can be seen on the satellite image)". The satmap I was working with is below. Two fences are apparent: one running south-to-north along the sidewalk, and another running southeast-to-northwest separating the backyards of two houses. Both of them disappear into the clump of trees. The north-south fence does not emerge on the north side of the trees. It was not at all obvious to me that the fences would block my access when I set out on the expedition. In retrospect, I now see that the short stripe I have labeled "barrier fence" in this screenshot was a continuation of the north-south fence, and that in fact after another couple of turns it runs to the east, separating the apartment grounds from the private home backyards and blocking my approach from the north. Mcbaneg (talk) 18:59, 22 June 2015 (EDT)