Talk:Geobrush achievement

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Proposal discussion[edit]

Note: This achievement was originally proposed under the name "Bob Ross memorial achievement".

  • Support: I really like the concept, and I wonder why we haven't had that idea earlier. But can we use a name which the majority of us won't need to look up in the Encyclopedia of Local Artists of Offshore Countries aka Wikipedia? I mean, we do have the Bill Gates achievement, which is also named after a human, but that's another league of fame. I'm thinking of a more general name such as Geobrush achievement, Ceci n'est pas un hashpoint achievement or simply Visual Artist achievement. --Calamus 04:10, 12 January 2014 (EST)
  • I support this achievement, because I like the idea and I think there is a lot of potential for even non-artists (like me) to come up with a collage, say, made of materials found at the hashpoint. I shall add it to my list of things to do this summer. But like Calamus above, the name means absolutely nothing to me and I would prefer a more general one which communicates the idea of the achievement better. — Benjw  {talk} 06:49, 12 January 2014 (EST)
  • Support. Though I suck at art so I'll probably never get this my self. --RedHatter (talk) 15:27, 14 January 2014 (EST)
  • Support, it would be neat to have a gallery of the artwork and it would be yet another reason to get into geohashing. Frogman (talk) 21:27, 15 January 2014 (EST)
  • Support, while hesitantly. I do not consider it too interesting, but I accept that other people think differently. I am not too happy with the naming and agree that it's difficult, still I offered another option for naming. I consider the art photos to be in need of their own category, as well. Rincewind (talk)

The achievement has been approved and, from this point onwards, may be claimed by geohashers. --Calamus 09:31, 7 February 2014 (EST)

Better Naming[edit]

Note: This achievement was originally proposed under the name "Bob Ross memorial achievement", which evoked negative responses and caused the debate below.

The naming seems to be the only failure so far, so let's just start a list of better / more generally understandable names.
I choose Bob Ross originally because he was the first person plopping into my mind when I thought about a non-academic artist, famous for landscapes and encouraging people to be creative. But I understand that he's too widely unknown. ;) TroLLorT (talk) 13:19, 12 January 2014 (EST)

Naming is always hard. I've been running a background process in my head all day in search of a clever name for this achievement, and I haven't been able to come up with one. So for now, I'll just stick to one of the existing proposals. Anyone feeling creative? Posting this discussion to the news box. --Calamus 16:52, 12 January 2014 (EST)
Great, we have a neck-and-neck race! We need more voting supporters for Geobrush achievement! :D TroLLorT (talk) 11:58, 16 January 2014 (EST)
Since I usually walk through brush to get to the hash, I find the name misleading. Just my 2c. Rincewind (talk)
You're right. I didn't even know that denotation of the word. English is a dance of polysemy; good for jokes, bad for unambiguous statements.
We've been in a tie for three weeks now. This wiki has seen a lot of achievements vanish in limbo for minor reasons, but a tie for the name is a whole new level. --Calamus 03:03, 7 February 2014 (EST)
Agh, I think I'm more partial to Geobrush (even though I think Ceci n'est pas un hashpoint is funnier) so I'll narrow my vote to only geobrush. Breaks the tie for now... -- OtherJack (talk) 03:50, 7 February 2014 (EST)

This resolves the naming debate. The community has chosen the name "Geobrush achievement". --Calamus 09:31, 7 February 2014 (EST)


Name Pros Cons Supporters

Geobrush achievement

  • understandable
  • brush only?

Ceci n'est pas un hashpoint achievement
see: La trahison des images by René Magritte

  • nice allusion
  • again the Encyclopedia of Local Artists of Offshore Countries aka Wikipedia
  • Magritte was an academic (professional) painter

Visual Artist achievement

  • understandable
  • maybe a bit boring

Happy Trees achievement

  • stems (pun intended) from the original cause for Bob Ross' notoriety
  • not specific to an individual artist
  • as opaque as the original proposal, just harder to look up
  • trees only?

Matter Art Achievement

  • Would include painting, sculting, etc., while not touching Music achievement, circus achievement, etc. Everything done with "matter", could be read as the matter, that art is, too.
  • not specific to an individual artist -that is unknown(?) to non-US TV networks viewers...
  • Not very catchy, but the title didn't stop other achievements from motivating people to obtain them.

Rincewind (obviously)